Interesting Video on Lightning Battery Module Replacement.

[Kstype]

Hello Fellow Lightning Owners/Reservation Holders.

I stumbled across this video about a team replacing battery module number 2 from an F-150 Battery back due to a bad cell. I know it’s the ER battery since it’s the two tier design.

Enjoy:

Kurt

 

[Sync]

Hello Fellow Lightning Owners/Reservation Holders.

I stumbled across this video about a team replacing battery module number 2 from an F-150 Battery back due to a bad cell. I know it’s the ER battery since it’s the two tier design.

Enjoy:

Kurt

That is great info. Is there a way for a normal user/owner to perform a “cell report” and see if there is a low/bad/flawed battery somewhere?

 

[Rdiamfree]

Nice... Great Video!

 

[Sync]

Ok, so after just over 2k miles, I think I am a victim of a bad cell or multiple bad cells too.
I was hoping for a way to “self diagnose“ the battery, but haven’t found anything yet on how to do that.
Bottom line, I consistently get 65% of advertised range. I have tracked it both with one person regular city driving and multiple people with luggage (extra weight) on longer trips. Example, if the truck says I have 200 miles range, I will only get 130. I have never let it go below 40 miles shown on the screen, but basically in that example I drove 104 with theoretically 40 left, but started at 200.
I had one longer trip with total of 207 miles from start to finish. I charged to 100% and truck claimed 295 range at start. I made it 143 miles and had less than 60 left. Luckily there was an EA super charger because I would not have made it to the destination when I should have had about 80 miles left on the charge.

I would love feedback. Anyone else with this drastic of loss? It is winter, but I live in TN so I wouldnt expect more than 5-6% loss due to cold. I have a tesla too, and it only lost about 2% due to cold weather.

 

[Rdiamfree]

Ok, so after just over 2k miles, I think I am a victim of a bad cell or multiple bad cells too.
I was hoping for a way to “self diagnose“ the battery, but haven’t found anything yet on how to do that.
Bottom line, I consistently get 65% of advertised range. I have tracked it both with one person regular city driving and multiple people with luggage (extra weight) on longer trips. Example, if the truck says I have 200 miles range, I will only get 130. I have never let it go below 40 miles shown on the screen, but basically in that example I drove 104 with theoretically 40 left, but started at 200.
I had one longer trip with total of 207 miles from start to finish. I charged to 100% and truck claimed 295 range at start. I made it 143 miles and had less than 60 left. Luckily there was an EA super charger because I would not have made it to the destination when I should have had about 80 miles left on the charge.

I would love feedback. Anyone else with this drastic of loss? It is winter, but I live in TN so I wouldnt expect more than 5-6% loss due to cold. I have a tesla too, and it only lost about 2% due to cold weather.

Reading an experience like this leads me to rethink my "In-Propduciton" F-150 Lariat. I need a truck that can at least make 200+ miles on a one way trip for my business. There are not charge stations between my ranch and the nearest charge station 150 +/- miles away.

 

[Sync]

Ok, so after just over 2k miles, I think I am a victim of a bad cell or multiple bad cells too.
I was hoping for a way to “self diagnose“ the battery, but haven’t found anything yet on how to do that.
Bottom line, I consistently get 65% of advertised range. I have tracked it both with one person regular city driving and multiple people with luggage (extra weight) on longer trips. Example, if the truck says I have 200 miles range, I will only get 130. I have never let it go below 40 miles shown on the screen, but basically in that example I drove 104 with theoretically 40 left, but started at 200.
I had one longer trip with total of 207 miles from start to finish. I charged to 100% and truck claimed 295 range at start. I made it 143 miles and had less than 60 left. Luckily there was an EA super charger because I would not have made it to the destination when I should have had about 80 miles left on the charge.

I would love feedback. Anyone else with this drastic of loss? It is winter, but I live in TN so I wouldnt expect more than 5-6% loss due to cold. I have a tesla too, and it only lost about 2% due to cold weather.

Any other owners with this experience? I am going to do another full week of testing, but I think I may take it in to get battery checked.

 

[Sync]

Well, I finally decided to take it in and get a “battery diagnostic“ to see if I have bad cells, which seems highly likely based on my consistent 65% of whatever the truck “thinks” the range is. But now I have to leave it with the dealer for 30 days before they can even look at it! Yep, you read that right……30 days!!!
And if I am right, how long will it take to fix/replace the bad modules???

I have loved the last 3 F150s I have had since 2001 and still technically love the Lightning, but my frustration with Ford as a company is growing strong.

 

[Sync]

Well, today I am 16 days in with my truck sitting at the dealer waiting for diagnosis. I even bought a Thinkdiag ODB2 scanner in hopes of diagnosing it myself. Despite seeing a YouTube video with it working on a 2022 Lightning, it doesn’t appear to support the 2023 yet. So I am still at the mercy of the local dealer.

 

[Sync]

Ok Lightning owners, help me out. Are you guys seeing that “climate use”, accessories, and external temperature are eating up about 30% of battery, meaning actual driving range is typically only about 70% of whatever is shown after each charge?

 

[Sync]

Ok, for anyone that has been following or even cares the final verdict is in. I have a perfect bill of health from my battery cell report, and I even got to witness it personally.
So my final conclusion is that an extended range lightning is a 200 mile range truck not a 300 mile range.
Unless, of course, wherever you live is exactly 70°F all the time and you don’t use internal climate control and you drive downhill 100% of the time drafting behind an 18 wheeler, consider this truck a200 mile range truck.
I absolutely love everything else about the truck but I wish I did know this going in so that I didn’t waste six weeks of research.

 

[Lbfireman1]

That is great info. Is there a way for a normal user/owner to perform a “cell report” and see if there is a low/bad/flawed battery somewhere?

4 months and under 4k miles my truck would not charge so I limped it into the dealer on 12/26. After parts replacement and finally a diagnostic report it was determined that module #7 was bad. It was replaced on Friday. Mywill be ready for pick up on Monday 🤞. What a fiasco.

 

[Sync]

4 months and under 4k miles my truck would not charge so I limped it into the dealer on 12/26. After parts replacement and finally a diagnostic report it was determined that module #7 was bad. It was replaced on Friday. Mywill be ready for pick up on Monday 🤞. What a fiasco.

What parts were replaced? Was it the recall BECN thing? Was your battery considered good before the replacement?

 

[Lbfireman1]

Yeah, it was the BECM, and it was on backorder. Once it was installed, they were able to diagnose the battery life. It was determined the #7 battery module was bad. The order, delivery, and installation of the module was one week.